How they frame their conditions in precisely the point. As you say, what they do with the ransom they collect is nobody's business, so why even bring PFG into the conversation since they can make their donations without making a public link between ransoms and PFG. There is no benefit to the charity and a significant possibility of a downside, so if they have the initiative's best interests at heart they should not pursue this approach any further. There is a reason that CCP has told pirates not to demand PFG donations as ransoms and exactly the same set of reasons apply in this case.

I find it absolutely hillarious and sad at the same time how people justify this blackmailing by saying it's not blackmailing. And how some argue that the cause justifies all means.

It's not your business how much i donate and i don't let myself bully into it, end of line.

To the person who said i want the wardec lifted... right, Because the Viziam get wardecced so much. -.-

So it's ok to squeeze it out of people as long as you the agressor thinks it's for a good cause ? Got some news for you, noone does anything in this world without thinking in his mind that it's a good thing for one reason or another after weighing in the positives and negatives. Still we have wars in the real world over all kinds of stupid crap. Stop imposing what you think is good on others nomatter how clear it might be. Do and keep it ingame.

You keep reciting that, it's an opinion by the way not a fact. Lets try to do this eloquent then:


"It's ok to ransom people in eve."
Thats an absolute statement that implies that under ALL circumstances it's alright to ransom people.

I can easily come up with a couple examples the falsify that:


"Give me your Real Life adress or i will Harass you to no end."

"Give me 3 billion or i will make jokes about on Fanfest in a public Presentation and suggest that you should kill yourself"

"Give me this or i'll ******* murder you in real life"


Notice the thing ? It's not just "right" under any circumstance it's the means and consequences. Therefore again, keep ingame ingame. Do not mix it with other stuff.

And learn the difference between a factual statement and an opinion that has no actual arguments to support it.

[quote=CCP Falcon]

What if we knocked on your CCP door and locked you down in your system for months and extorted you claiming it was for a good cause? Would the game mechanic still allowed? Probably not.

Deffinition: Extortion (also called shakedown, outwresting, and exaction) is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection. Extortion is commonly practiced by organized crime groups. The actual obtainment of money or property is not required to commit the offense. Making a threat of violence which refers to a requirement of a payment of money or property to halt future violence is sufficient to commit the offense. Exaction refers not only to extortion or the unlawful demanding and obtaining of something through force,[1] but additionally, in its formal definition, means the infliction of something such as pain and suffering or making somebody endure something unpleasant.[